Berlusconi takes one for the team

[aubrey]

Not that he'd thank you for refering to him as an old man; earlier he was pulling his shirt open to show that he wasn't wearing a vest. "I'm Rock, me," he'd have been saying if he was a Geordie. I wonder if he can drink 8 pints without having to go for a lash, like a real man?

I know he's being done for some things; but the mafia thing isn't proved, is it? I know there might be links, but I should imagine that in some places it's hard not to have some (legal) links; the mafia is involved in a lot of legitimate busineses these days. What if you buy a sandwich from a deli that is part owned by the mafia: would that count as a link?

[jamesjosh]

Yes Pippa and what would people say if the victim was Margaret Thatcher or Hilary Clinton ?

[pippa]

Not that he'd thank you for refering to him as an old man; earlier he was pulling his shirt open to show that he wasn't wearing a vest. "I'm Rock, me," he'd have been saying if he was a Geordie. I wonder if he can drink 8 pints without having to go for a lash, like a real man?

um gowa - Aubrey. i've no idea how old he is so maybe its because of his injury that he looked so ancient. in some of his pics he doesn't look old at all but that could be down to a twiggy touchup or perhaps next to his missus he looks so much older. anyway you can see his injury has knocked the stuffing out of him. maybe realising he's not as popular as he'd like to think is a stress factor for a vain man. i always thought, btw, that macho posturing in old guys is a sign of sexual insecurity.

and its true james it would considered completely unnaceptable were it a woman politician. double standards eh?

older people do seem to come accross as more vulnerable. the 90 odd yr old they wheeled into court recently for nazi war crimes did look very pathetic.

[jean]

He's 73 and has had a hair transplant and a facelift or two.