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Post by pippa on Jun 12, 2012 20:07:37 GMT
this part of the board is barely used so will park this here.
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Post by aquatic on Jun 12, 2012 23:42:04 GMT
(I'm having time off from world news, pippa. Who's the hippie?)
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Post by pippa on Jun 13, 2012 1:07:56 GMT
the hippie aqua, is occupy (occupy wall street). a global awakening that spontaneously blossomed from or coincided with the arab spring. it is a protest for change from the current system where the 1%, corrupt corporate business and greedy bankers hold power. . in just about every city around the world camps sites were set up close to the financial centres. wall street and st. pauls probably having the highest profile. surely you cant not have heard of it?
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 13, 2012 7:53:03 GMT
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Post by aquatic on Jun 13, 2012 9:38:19 GMT
Thanks pippa. I must admit I didn't really look at the background.
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Post by pippop on Jun 13, 2012 12:44:38 GMT
... a global awakening that spontaneously blossomed from or coincided with the arab spring.... The internet with social networking sites must have played no small part. It's all very exciting. I do hope it grows and doesn't fizzle out.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 13, 2012 14:14:36 GMT
Don't quote the "arab spring" quite so so approvingly, pippop, please! They're merrily murdering each other as per usual in tribal/sectarian society (e.g. Syria and Iraq) this very day.
Let'em get on with it. It brings down the astronomical population growth rate. Every cloud has a silver lining, doesn't it? Don't expect me to take sides and try to find the good guys in these internecine disputes - the Arab world is absolutely riddled with them and they are all just as bad as each other as far as I can tell.
Incidentally, for those of you who have noted the news reports' dwelling on the high number of children amongst the casualties, the kids were not being particularly "targeted" - tribal societies just have enormous families - 48% of the dead aged under ten? - it's the norm, alas, in the arab world.
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Post by jean on Jun 13, 2012 14:39:47 GMT
Don't quote the "arab spring" quite so so approvingly, pippop, please! That's a composite partial quote from two different posters you've got there, marchesa. For all either of us knows, pippop might have been approving the global awakening pippa mentions rather than the arab spring from which it may or may not have arisen.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 13, 2012 15:01:39 GMT
Let pippop speak for herself if she thinks I've misunderstood him, jean.
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Post by jean on Jun 13, 2012 15:18:02 GMT
I'm more interested in your having misunderstood (or ignored) pippa, since it was ahe who brought the Arab Spring into it.
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Post by pippop on Jun 13, 2012 17:15:17 GMT
Don't quote the "arab spring" quite so so approvingly, pippop, please! ...and don't you arse about with the quote boxes to alter my meaning or my emphasis. I made my feelings on this subject known here: The so called Arab Spring: I do not think that there will be any real changes in any of the countries that hit the headlines in 2011. If anything things will get worse for the people of those countries especially women. Any moves towards anything approaching freedom or democracy will not happen. The blokes with the biggest guns will have all the power. A similar story in Burma. I do hope I'm wrong.
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Post by pippop on Jun 13, 2012 17:16:11 GMT
Don't quote the "arab spring" quite so so approvingly, pippop, please! That's a composite partial quote from two different posters you've got there, marchesa. For all either of us knows, pippop might have been approving the global awakening pippa mentions rather than the arab spring from which it may or may not have arisen. Correct.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 13, 2012 18:49:34 GMT
Well, Im not surprised that pippop is back pedalling somewhat from endorsing the "arab spring" as part of the so-called "global awakening" in view of what is happening today round the Middle East.
We should count ourselves lucky in the West that we have, for the most part, been spared the political instability that arises from the invidious fractures of tribalism and sectarianism.
One hopes that the introduction of vast numbers of muslims into the UK is not going to introduce here lines of social fracture like those of benighted locations abroad.
Incidentally, using a quote box that does not identify a single poster and which in fact quotes two phrases from the same reply separated by a line of dots, namely #5, is surely not so heinous a crime? It's not as if I were misrepresenting the tenor of pippop's comment, is it?
If s/he wants to deny that the so-called "arab spring" is part of what has been called a "global awaking" and that s/he hopes it "doesn't fizzle out" let him say so unambiguously! Incidentally, I have no idea where pippop's self-quote of 2nd January comes from. It's not from THIS thread, though, is it?
Pippop is not a poster whose output I follow except when addressed to me personally and even then it's not usually worth the bother of a reply.
So, just to humour you, what were you intending to say HERE in reply#5 that I *misrepresented*, pippop?
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Post by aquatic on Jun 13, 2012 21:44:16 GMT
We should count ourselves lucky in the West that we have, for the most part, been spared the political instability that arises from the invidious fractures of tribalism and sectarianism. We do, and it's no accident; which is why your scenario sketched below is unrealistic, even paranoid or xenophobic. One hopes that the introduction of vast numbers of muslims into the UK is not going to introduce here lines of social fracture like those of benighted locations abroad.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 14, 2012 8:18:55 GMT
Thanks for that prompt dismissal, aqua. Short and sweet as per usual. But, tell me, doesn't your public spirited swallowing of the whole of the PC crib sheet in one gulp ever cause you indigestion?
Your mastery of the compact, condensed dictum, however, saves your readers the need to go into anything in further depth. Pippop will appreciate that! What a little public benefactor you are, to be sure! Where do you pick up these little gobbets of wisdom?
Try harder next time, perhaps, to include a little "content" in your post rather than the usual priggish admonition?
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