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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 3, 2009 23:52:50 GMT
I wonder what spesh had done to joe to make him so fed up? Are we supposed to believe he was able to persuade the BBC to ban spesh without providing evidence of unacceptable behaviour?
Everyone tells me I was banned by the Beeb for unacceptable behaviour. Was not the same true of spesh or do we have a dual standard - one for jean's pals and one for everyone else?
Figures.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 3, 2009 23:59:24 GMT
Shall we have a vote then, to eject spesh, like they used to have in the old days, when the cakeboard in-crowd ruled the roost?
Or shall we just continue in our usual tolerant fashion? After all, if spesh gets us closed down again we can always reassemble elsewhere, can't we?
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2009 1:41:20 GMT
if there is a problem in future i reckon that proboards will be in touch with me.
perhaps the Goddess was using an e-mail address that was not often used?
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Post by jean on Dec 4, 2009 10:10:01 GMT
if there is a problem in future i reckon that proboards will be in touch with me. I hope you are right. But I would rather goddess had nothing to do with this board, as I think s/he is a most unsatisfactory administrator.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 10:36:07 GMT
Thanks for that recap joe.
The BBC boards were almost designed to enable the intolerant to hound those who disagree with them. The Cakeboarders had co-ordinated catpeeing and mobbing down to a fine art.
But they can't do that here, so let's not fret about them any more, eh? The BBC Woman's Hour Board was effectively their "Last Stand".
We do things differently here.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 10:37:54 GMT
I think Goddess was a GREAT administrator. Completely hands off except when it came to ejecting an intolerant mod.
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Post by jean on Dec 4, 2009 10:40:53 GMT
Now now, Jean, you are displaying your intellectual dishonesty once more. For I explained in detail just a short time ago how Spesh came to be banned. And I didn't deny it. But you tend to miss out the first stage, which is a bit intellectually dishonest. So I fill it in for you. Which as you have said yourself is a very easy conclusion to draw. Asking qustions is a legitimate form of argument, joe. If you are not racist and homophobic, then your answers won't reveal racism and homophobia, and you have nothing to fear. You have the advantage of me here, because I knew spesh from the WH boards and that is not where your spats occurred. My understanding is that you got spesh put into premod and that is all I have claimed. Spesh did not abide by the terms of his being put in premod and was permanently banned. We vaued his contribution on the WH board. I knew nothing of what happened elsewhere. What lies? You did get him put into premod. That seemed and seems to me to be vindictive. He did that entirely on his own. I hardly knew who you were. There were a number of people who shared similar opinions. Such people often like to talk to each other without being interrupted by entirely predictable racist and homophobic rants. When you pretty well swamped WHS, which was a perfectly legitimate thing to do. When you re-colonised WHS fairly recently, the few surviving members quickly melted away. Just how many were still posting when the board disappeared? How many were posting on your own worralorra? AFAIK, whatever spesh did, there was never a 'clique' dedicated to getting you banned. As you see, your own posts and those of sim and others alienate posters all on their own - that is why I am very much against bans, because it deprives you of the realisation of just how much you bore people. That does not mean that particular posts which are inflammatory or which make unacceptable reference to individuals should be left to stand, of course.
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Post by jean on Dec 4, 2009 10:48:22 GMT
The BBC boards were almost designed to enable the intolerant to hound those who disagree with them. The Cakeboarders had co-ordinated catpeeing and mobbing down to a fine art. marchesa, if they did, they did it entirely without my participation or even knowledge, even though you many times stated publicly that you knew that I was the ringleader or this co-ordinated catpeeing and mobbing . You know, because I have told you seversl times, that I reported a particularly nasty post of yours that sneered in very unpleasant terms at an easily-recognisable poster. You did not do this on the board on which you and he had argued, but on a completely different one where he was a respected member. I thought then, and I still think, that it was a vile thing to do and I would do the same again.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 11:48:59 GMT
I wonder who got me put into pre-mod? It looked pretty vindictive to me, too.
Are you totally incapable of consistency, jean? You're like a chav protecting her vile offspring right or wrong. Except you dress up the irrational partisanship in fancy words and quote boxes.
No-one is going to ban anyone from this board as far as I can see, so lets just be glad that this little board is a BIG improvement on the BBC and celebrate it.
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Post by jean on Dec 4, 2009 11:51:16 GMT
I wonder who got me put into pre-mod? It looked pretty vindictive to me, too. Well it wasn't me, marchesa (unless you think that that one thoroughly nasty post of yours was enough to do it), so no inconsistency there.
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Post by sinistral on Dec 4, 2009 12:00:11 GMT
Goodness me,Jean.... Doesn't ancient history live on!
I can't pass comment upon what happened between Joe,Spesh,yourself or anyone else in the dim and distant past,but I can make a few observations.
I have no idea whether Joe is homophobic or racist. I do know,however,that he writes some thought provoking and often funny things. The assumption that because somebody dares to voice an opinion that differs from your own makes them racist I find to be typical of all that is bad about PC. Also,there is the foolishness of actually believing all that a poster writes. Joe is a master at getting the,dare I say it,pompous liberals,going and I have no doubt it amuses him greatly.But then how many do the same thing,playing devil's advocate,whether to promote discussion or simply wind others up? And anyway....how can we know anyone's true nature from what they write? Are you really a "save the planet,liberal" Jean? How call we tell?
And boring people,Jean? Well perhaps Joe does bore people sometimes.....don't we all? Marchesa and her global warming..... Sim and his feminism..... Me and my wordgames...... And yes Jean......even you,with your pedantic nit-picking over what someone may,or may not,have meant. I do know,from my early days on the BBC,that many were put off by the wimmin's posting techiques.......cup cake dearie?
When it comes down to it we're merely playing a game of smoke and mirrors...aren't we?
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 12:04:08 GMT
Joe is not a homophobe or a racist. He is a satirist. If spesh can't perceive the difference more fool him.
I second what sin says.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 4, 2009 18:57:01 GMT
Spesh never hounded me, even though he disagrees with my views on pornography - which is a hell of a divide for the original woman's hour board. (I remember nearly getting flamed on there because I said I like Larry Flynt).
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 19:54:37 GMT
Spesh believed I was libjoe's "sock puppet". He was always chunnering on about it to cronies.
How can anyone have any time or respect for someone with such lousy judgement?
And why the obsession with "sock puppets" in the first place?
The poor sap just couldn't cope with the fact two outspoken, non PC types could have an existence independent of eachother.
The man's a twit. Why are we devoting time to him?
Let him participate here if he wishes. It's flattering. He's the one who is drawn to us not vice versa.
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Post by arealfarmer on Dec 5, 2009 11:06:11 GMT
The thing is ..........if Goddess isn't the original Goddess , which is highly likely as far as I can see , then whoever registered as such is just here to make trouble , or rather, get their hands on the levers of power . I think it is someone special , who doubtless got the last board deleted .
Not good is it ?....................................
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