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Post by Jade on Mar 8, 2010 10:15:24 GMT
you reckon I get money for doing this MR? Who on earth would pay me to do this?
I find your thrusting inquisitiveness into my personal circumstances really quite irritating.
Why not make a contribution to the thread? Do you think the guy I was talking to had a point about the role men play in the socialisation of young men?
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Post by lark descending on Mar 8, 2010 12:59:12 GMT
Jade, you do have a point. It has become a dirty word to talk about "proper" work for men, but the industries you talk about were very important for communities. The fact that young women in manual jobs get better paid on average than young men says a lot, I think.
But if women won't wait until a suitable partner comes into their lives, what message does that send their children, sons and daughters?
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Post by lark descending on Mar 8, 2010 13:57:30 GMT
I should add that the pay statistics I was referring to applied only to single women, who earn more than single men (according to at least one report I've seen). The situation is reversed once babies come along - another good reason not to become a single mum, I'd have thought.
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Post by jamesjosh on Mar 8, 2010 17:16:24 GMT
Surely in today's equal, diversity society there is no such thing as mens jobs, womens jobs. And also perhaps some women can give provide good guidance to men, as some men can and do give good guidance to women.
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Post by Jade on Mar 9, 2010 9:27:56 GMT
Indeed JJ
But missing nowadays, that used to be prevalent in erstwhile times, is the mainstream expectation of an environment where men (alsmost exclusively) can "school" young men into being mature, moral adults.
Its just interresting that this coincides with a large proportion of young women deciding their life plan does not include these young men.
Not all young women, not all young men, but a decent chunk of them
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Post by lark descending on Mar 9, 2010 11:28:02 GMT
The subject of "irresponsible " fathers came up on the Beeb board, and I used the Mail story in the opening post. I traced the source to this Centre for Policy Studies findingsThe Centre presumably has its own agenda and I am tempted to treat its claims with the same suspicion that I treat anything from the Fawcett Society. But broadly it seems to be agreeing with Jade on the subject of opportunities for young men. My own view is that if a man isn't good enough to share your life with, it is downright irresponsible to produce a child carrying his genes. But then I'm just a crabby old bag so ignore me, do.
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