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Post by naymissus on Jul 28, 2010 13:17:30 GMT
o And Sagis a buffoon who cannot write English, a person who I do my damndest to avoid, but he keeps on following me around and referring to me. If he is in I am out, that is for sure. I do not come on to boards to commune with one-line fools
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Post by pippa on Jul 28, 2010 13:55:21 GMT
Then to your criticism of Jean.I'm sure there is some truth in what you say,but if she was Bet's choice the solution lies with her and not Jean. no i dont see Jean relinguishing her modding powers despite her saying she was out of here. Bets will have to at some point get involved. Joe has a brilliant sense of theatre and satyr which is highly amusing and entertaining and it was not him under the radar . neither are his postings are about me, me, me, so no, not nay, that i was thinking of when i wrote that. no particular reason? you're unlikely to be aware that back in 2008, on the beeb WH board, when cakeboard was exposed for their picking on individuals, i'd said that if ever i saw any of the particular names who were exposed, again involved in underhand behaviour, and systematically picking on others over a length of time, then i would feel obliged to warn whoever it was they were focussing on. which i did in the case of JM, so what i have done is stick to my word. obviously, the pattern was all too recognisable to marchesa also. well nay has already stated that he wont stay if Alan mods. and as for Aqua, No, i am definitely not happy with that. i actually think Marchesa would be ideal because she believes in non-intervention. she also is aware of the boards vulnerability when she said in #18 (this thread) she shows a spirit of fair mindedness shown in # 8 'do we need a catpee button?' plus, she has no truck with cliques.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 17:09:29 GMT
no particular reason? you're unlikely to be aware that back in 2008, on the beeb WH board, when cakeboard was exposed for their picking on individuals, i'd said that if ever i saw any of the particular names who were exposed, again involved in underhand behaviour, and systematically picking on others over a length of time, then i would feel obliged to warn whoever it was they were focussing on. which i did in the case of JM, so what i have done is stick to my word. obviously, the pattern was all too recognisable to marchesa also. Please note that I said "No particular reason pertaining to THIS board. And yes I am aware,Pippa.My presence on the BBC boards predates 2008. You seem to be under the impression that if someone doesn't agree with your view of things they are either ignorant of the "facts",stupid or part of a clique. The more prosaic truth is that the vast majority of posters just move on.Raking over the embers to try and reignite old feuds contributes little to a successful board......unless of course that is what you want a board to consist of.Endless rows going back into the mists of time.Rows where hardly anyone knows what is being talked about. I've seen other boards go down that road and there is no surer way to kill one. But you can't have both. A board is always vulnerable if there is no moderating. Certain posters(and I won't name them but I expect we can all think of a couple)will go way over the top with abuse and insults. Nor neither do I.....despite the attempts of certain parties to insinuate that I do.
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Post by pippa on Jul 28, 2010 18:56:54 GMT
round in circles.... do calm down, Sin, and please for both our sakes, do try and stop going off at the the deep end all the time. precisely the reason i wrote "unlikely to be aware" is because how on earth, let alone why on earth, should you recall a single post of mine, let alone even be aware of anything i have ever written? i'm not quite so arrogant, so don't go assuming that i am insinuating things i am not.
and thank you for your advice but quite frankly, i am not one to stand by and turn a blind eye when i see an individual enduring the same old treatment metered out to them from the same old posters of yore. i should keep my mouth shut and just move on, eh? - sorry, nah.
what are you on about? please do not put words into my mouth that i have not said. where did i accuse you or insinuate you were part of a clique.
here we are trying to discuss the moderation of this board. when you pipe up with <<Raking over the embers to try and reignite old feuds contributes little to a successful board......>> having already written, in your previous post, <<And as for Marchesa,and indeed yourself,you have both shown the ability to attack individuals for no particular reason pertaining to this board,but simply to keep old feuds going. Not,I fear,the stuff that mods are made of.>> to which i responded with my explanation. so who is it that keeps dragging this stuff up, eh?
did it not occur to you Sin, that Marchesa and i might have been perfectly happy here poodling around on this board without any desire for "succcess" (although bit of discussion needn't go amiss). you've only been here a week or so and there you are slapping us around, giving us the violins about not making cyber friends, playing to the gallery with comments about your perceptions of how they are likely to believe you rather than me. your inability to embark in any sort of reasoned rational debate, piping up about how the board should be run. blimming cheeky if you ask me. its one thing to defend whomever you wish, but its another turn up and start calling the shots.
and your own record of board keeping aint so hot either, btw. not only was i appalled by the way you slung AHL out on his ear, but also the humiliating treatment of RC, both up to and after his departure and then accusing him of being a liar to boot, charming. what was it he likened you to? an autocratic colliery baron in the 19th century. think he has the measure of you, ' m'dear '.
there you go, have a taste of your own medicine.
Marchesa would make an excellent milk monitor, imo.
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Post by naymissus on Jul 28, 2010 19:48:52 GMT
OK MR has it
Just a mo! What about you Pippa, you are articulate , reasonable and sexy in a very feminine way!
I vote Pippa!
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 22:13:51 GMT
round in circles.... do calm down, Sin, and please for both our sakes, do try and stop going off at the the deep end all the time. precisely the reason i wrote " unlikely to be aware" is because how on earth, let alone why on earth, should you recall a single post of mine, let alone even be aware of anything i have ever written? i'm not quite so arrogant, so don't go assuming that i am insinuating things i am not. Well goodness me....looks like I shall have to deal with this bit by bit. First,Pippa m'dear.....congratulations. You are picking up hints and tips from your mentor very well. The other day it was "tantrums,tantrums" and now it's "do calm down, Sin, and please for both our sakes, do try and stop going off at the the deep end all the time." Always worth a go trying to make another poster sound out of control as it can deflect from your own shortcomings. You might think that your sparkling prose has me all hot and bothered.....but don't flatter yourself m'dear. True,I did come over all weak......from laughter. However I'm quite composed now. But thank you for your concern.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 22:16:41 GMT
what are you on about? please do not put words into my mouth that i have not said. where did i accuse you or insinuate you were part of a clique. Now there you go m'dear...getting yourself all of a fluster again. Burn a feather under your nose,or something. I didn't mention you,did I? I said "certain parties" did I not? Of course....if you want to link yourself to the phrase "certain parties" feel free.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 22:23:06 GMT
did it not occur to you Sin, that Marchesa and i might have been perfectly happy here poodling around on this board without any desire for "succcess" (although bit of discussion needn't go amiss). you've only been here a week or so and there you are slapping us around, giving us the violins about not making cyber friends, playing to the gallery with comments about your perceptions of how they are likely to believe you rather than me. your inability to embark in any sort of reasoned rational debate, piping up about how the board should be run. blimming cheeky if you ask me. its one thing to defend whomever you wish, but its another turn up and start calling the shots. Oh I am sooooo sorry Pippa......I didn't realise this board was here simply to keep yourself and Marchesa amused. What is it...some kind of messageboard version of "Ladies of Letters"? Shall the rest of us leave and let you two play nicely....one with her climate and the other with her music? You're slipping up in the research department as well. I was here soon after the board was set up.The only reason I left was because I wished to avoid a certain someone......you know who I mean....another one of the poor little downtrodden victims of bullying that you strive so hard to defend. Not nice being told you should have been raped....oops sorry...there go those damned violins again. Now where was I?....ah yes. Rather foolishly I assumed that having rejoined the board my input on moderators would be as valid as the next members,but apparently not.(I trust you will be telling Joe the same thing) It is considered "blimming cheeky" to voice an opinion. Now what's that thing they have in a democracy? Ah yes...one member,one vote. All posters are equal.....but some are more equal than others.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 22:31:44 GMT
and your own record of board keeping aint so hot either, btw. not only was i appalled by the way you slung AHL out on his ear, but also the humiliating treatment of RC, both up to and after his departure and then accusing him of being a liar to boot, charming. what was it he likened you to? an autocratic colliery baron in the 19th century. think he has the measure of you, ' m'dear '. Now here we are again....spoiling all your hard work because of a lack of research. The trouble is that you're reading the posts on the board but you don't know what goes on in the background. Still that won't stand in your way will it m'dear.....what you don't know you'll make up! First AHL...and I shall put this in bold as you seem to be having difficulty understanding it. I did not "sling AHL out on his ear" After several warnings I PMed all active members of the board to ask whether he should be banned.That vote was secret.It was also unanimous.Even the members who had no previous knowledge of him voted to ban him.Now I'm sorry if you cannot accept that a poster you have spent so much time trying to defend has made himself this unpopular. Oddly enough though,I have never seen him rubbishing the board since he was banned which is all to his credit. Now to RC. And again a case of know half the story. There had been a low-level squabble about sick and dead animals where he had got up several peoples noses. No big deal. When he remarked along the lines of things were getting sour.I replied good...you've spotted the problem now work on the answer. He stopped posting. I assumed he was having a sulk....we all do it. Then I found out that he had broadcast on the BBC MC board that I had banned him. This was a lie. I suspect that his computer had logged him out,mine does it from time to time. Now this gentleman is no fool and must have realised what had happened. Another member told him that he hadn't been banned but he never retracted his comment. He is welcome to return at any time...but I suspect he is having difficulty swallowing his pride. Quite obviously the actions of an autocratic 19th century colliery owner...eh?
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 22:35:34 GMT
there you go, have a taste of your own medicine. I have no problem getting a taste of my own medicine...... What I don't care for is having it dispensed by someone that I welcomed onto my board,even to the extent of going along with their wish to remain unrecognised. Not awfully keen on said member scrabbling through the board history to try and dish the dirt,either. Oh....and just to let you know..... I'm feeling perfectly calm....almost serene. Jesus....I've just realised...... I've posted all that stuff and not asked permission!
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Post by aquatic on Jul 28, 2010 23:03:22 GMT
Maybe there's a more appropriate thread to post this on, but I've almost lost the will to live in the face of inward-looking hypocrisy and self-deception ...
It's interesting that some of you are laying into Jean while you know she's away for a couple of weeks. Compared to the Gang Mentality that pippa - oh so wrongly - attributes to her and me, that's opportunistic in her absence, as well as libellous and wrong to boot..
I'm not here to defend Jean, because she can defend herself - and well, I suspect - when, or if, she returns.
(Come back, Leader Jean, I have no mind of my own, pippa has the measure of me, and Johnny, whose company I eschewed like the plague, has turned out to be a good egg. 'Twas ever thus.)
pippa, you know I think you've exaggerated and exploited the little you found out on 'cake' to the Nth degree. Why, in your membership of a few hours, do you think that you know better than I do, with a membership of 3 yrs?
Did you detect that I and a few others were personae non gratae from time to time? No? Well, perhaps that was because the members actually discussed things adultly, and usually amicably resolved them, which you wouldn't've observed.
You've accused Cake members of much. Me of much. To those who ACTUALLY know, and for the fewer who actually care, you're becoming more than faintly ridiculous in your obsessiveness.
If I were you, I'd call it a day, for your and everyone else's sake.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 28, 2010 23:32:13 GMT
pippa, you know I think you've exaggerated and exploited the little you found out on 'cake' to the Nth degree. Why, in your membership of a few hours, do you think that you know better than I do, with a membership of 3 yrs? Aqua...that is most interesting re the Cakeboard. It would appear that Pippa makes something of a habit of joining boards then dishing the dirt on them.
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Post by pippa on Jul 29, 2010 0:09:32 GMT
First AHL...and I shall put this in bold as you seem to be having difficulty understanding it. .Even the members who had no previous knowledge of him voted to ban him. how odd... it surprises me to hear that anyone would, without knowledge of a person, make such a judgment. perhaps a desire to swim with the tide? not wanting to give an individual the benefit of the doubt? wanting to fit in? i find it rather sad to hear about people unable or not willing to make up their own minds based on their own findings. see how easy it is to either get sucked in or just jump on the bandwagon. i would've stopped posting too if i had been publicly admonished like that - good on him. i did follow that scenario as it unfolded, btw, so there was no need to delve through board history. i thought at the time, the situation, especially one particular scenario where he was called upon to apologise, totally overblown and out of order. now i wonder precisely which noses he got up. i admired Suzee for standing up for him and vouching for his good character - the only one to do so, i believe. and wouldn't you had you been publicly humiliated in the same way. especially if one is required to publicly acknowledge their error, if there was one. his couple of comments on rbq were totally overshadowed by the outpourings on a whole thread dedicated to the post mortem. it's rather unfortunate that a mod is unable to leave the bossy parent outside of a message board. i'm afraid it does rather look that way from where i'm standing.
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Post by pippa on Jul 29, 2010 0:12:55 GMT
I have no problem getting a taste of my own medicine...... What I don't care for is having it dispensed by someone that I welcomed onto my board, even to the extent of going along with their wish to remain unrecognised. Not awfully keen on said member scrabbling through the board history to try and dish the dirt,either. despite marchesa's voicing otherwise i seem to remember earlier in this thread your saying you never break confidences - ho hum. and, surely one hardly needs to be a member of any public board to notice the social dynamics, and politics that unfold.
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Post by pippa on Jul 29, 2010 0:23:59 GMT
Aqua...that is most interesting re the Cakeboard. It would appear that Pippa makes something of a habit of joining boards then dishing the dirt on them. well you don't know how or why i stumbled onto the cakeboard, Sin. and as for my revealing the politics on your board, it was the hypocracy in your holding marchesa up as being unsuited to being a mod.
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