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Post by naymissus on Jul 20, 2010 12:57:24 GMT
The woman spy who had dual Russian/British nationality has had her British nationality revoked and will not be allowed to enter the country I honestly did not know that the Brtish Goovernment had the power to do this, but they do. They evidently do not have the balls to do so (this case was easy - the person was white) as there are so many people here with dual nationality that hate and attack our society. Such people should surely have their British nationality revoked and be bundled of to the hell-holes that they so cherish. But that would be 'racist ' wouldn't it? Instead we continue issuing British passport to people that despise us, devaluing British citizenship to the lowest currency that it has ever been in our 2000 year history (I once met a little shopkeeper in Rawalpindi - just a hovel really selling bits and pieces - and he proudly informed me that his family had nine British passports).
This revocation is a weapon that should be brandished and used more frequently. Then we would have integration; then we would not have bloody foreigner psuedo-Brits clamouring for an Islamic state and Death to the Infidel.
If enough Pakistanis (for that is what they are in many cases)were bundled off back to that miserable country where 'their' cricket team plays it would do wonders for the 'social cohesion' and integration of those that remain. I feel sure that the Burkha would mysteriously disappear, for example.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jul 20, 2010 18:12:55 GMT
I agree dual nationality is a curse. It should be stopped. But the British government, being the agent of world capitalism ( no matter which party is in office) is bound to oil the wheels of commerce and encourage the free movement of labour because that is what STILL keeps the world economy ticking over. The British Government will NEVER put any obstacles in the way of movement of capital or labour or goods because the British Government is still, as it always has been, the agent of British and indeed World Capitalism. Which nation has the greatest foreign investments in the world apart from the USA? UK pcl! With the rest a long way behind.
However, having said this, one can still permit free movement of peoples without permitting dual nationality. I agree, that for Pakistanis, certainly, the acquisition of a British Passport is THE prime underpinning of the increasing proportion of arranged marriages with the sub-continent. These folk certainly are citizens of the World.
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Post by aquatic on Jul 20, 2010 22:42:33 GMT
Oh, I see, you weren't serious about discussing dual nationality seriously, objectively.
Those Pakis, tho, I could go on about them all night! Bring it on.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jul 20, 2010 23:04:42 GMT
Hard to be objective, I suppose, aqua, when your relatives probably come into this category.
So much easier to adopt the PC line and not think about the real world. There are plenty Pakistanis already here. Why can't they pick spouses amongst the British, like 95% of the population does? Why? Because they want to spread the passports round their extended family back "HOME" as nay points out.
What do you think "citizenship" is about, aqua, since you seem to wish to discuss it in isolation from the actual FACTS of the matter?
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Post by aquatic on Jul 20, 2010 23:16:48 GMT
Hard to be objective, I suppose, aqua, when your relatives probably come into this category. Shall we just leave that there, MR, before you add rubbish to ignorance and possibly worse?
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Post by marchesarosa on Jul 20, 2010 23:28:23 GMT
Aqua, you're drunk.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 20, 2010 23:46:28 GMT
Ah.....a Winston Churchill moment. Winston you are drunk. Madam you are ugly.....but in the morning I shall be sober.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 20, 2010 23:51:55 GMT
Why can't they pick spouses amongst the British, like 95% of the population does? Can't help but wonder what the reaction would be of the "British" on being told they "should" marry someone of a different race,religion or colour?
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Post by marchesarosa on Jul 21, 2010 7:43:03 GMT
Madam you are ugly...
Feel better now sin? Is this where you come to deposit your gobbets of nastiness when niceness runs out? So much for welcoming you all back with a smile as old pals! You arrived with claws akimbo obviously aching for a fight.
Now, where was I? Oh, yes..
There are more than enough British Pakistanis here already to choose partners from without the "need" for them to import spouses from the “homeland” - which constitutes a VERY high and ever-rising proportion of marriages as time goes on, in fact.
I am not "telling" anyone to marry someone of a different race etc, although its benefits are obvious in social cohesion. I couldn’t care less if the British end up uniform coffee colour I am discussing the acquisition of citizenship rights via a particular marriage "strategy" which Pakistanis have turned into a fine art as described by nay.
The white British have a greater propensity to marry out with other races and creeds than any other other UK ethnicity. They don't need any bidding! Their record is exemplary. Ask aqua, he has personal family experience. Sadly, the Pakistanis have the least propensity. Their endogamy is legendary.
It's all recorded in the Census or has been so far! That treasure trove of unbiassed information that is going to get the chop, sadly.
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Post by sinistral on Jul 21, 2010 8:34:36 GMT
Madam you are ugly... Feel better now sin? Is this where you come to deposit your gobbets of nastiness when niceness runs out? So much for welcoming you all back with a smile as old pals! You arrived with claws akimbo obviously aching for a fight. Well dear...you are either ignorant of the wit and wisdom of Winston Churchill......or completely devoid of a sense of humour. It's a well known quote and seeing "Aqua,you're drunk" brought it to mind. No insult intended....but if you want to make a big issue out of everything I say then carry on.You're only making yourself look foolish. Of course...you may be thinking that the constant attacking...nay bullying,as some might say(where is that Pippa when you need her?)....will drive me away. Sorry....I'm still here. I must have picked up a few tricks on being thick skinned from somewhere. BTW.....I missed the smile.....could you run it past me again?
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Post by aquatic on Jul 21, 2010 22:34:14 GMT
MR - your #3, #5, #7. . .
Whatever you think you know about me and my family, would you please stop USING it.
Refuge of a scoundrel.
Who said that?
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Post by marchesarosa on Jul 22, 2010 6:51:17 GMT
Aqua, you are the only one I know who has direct experience of this matter. If I know it is because you have shared it with us.
Now, please, give us the benefit of your experience without merely mouthing PC claptrap or snide one-line attempted putdowns/ Because that is just evading the issue.
People are incensed by the way our hospitality and citizenship is being TRADED by one ethnic group in particular. Don't you find nay's conversation with the shop keeper in Rawalpindi illuminating?
If you don't see that there is an issue to be addressed, that's sad, because I thought you had more brain than that laissez-faire, head in the sand attitude reveals.
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Post by jamesjosh on Jul 27, 2010 16:47:09 GMT
Aqua, you're drunk
Talk about writing the bleeding obvious
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Post by aquatic on Jul 27, 2010 22:04:46 GMT
jamesj, you're drunk. Obviously.
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Post by alanseago on Jul 28, 2010 9:01:21 GMT
I can see this finishing in the carpark!
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