EPA's head, Lisa Jackson, Resigns

[marchesarosa]

www.cfact.org/2012/12/27/epas-lisa-jackson-resigns/

Hurrah!

This is the lady who presided over the declaration that CO2 is a an air pollutant and who tried to protect her mails from FOI requests by using the pseudonym of Richard Windsor.

The EPA is the organisation, one of whose regulators said he would "crucify" the coal industry and was then forced to resign for his honesty!

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www.cfact.org/2012/12/27/epas-lisa-jackson-resigns/
Jackson thwarted energy production and slowed the U.S. economy at exactly the wrong time

December 27, 2012 by CFACT Ed,


Lisa Jackson, who presided over the promulgation of an explosive growth of regulations at EPA announced today that she is stepping down

Jackson’s tenure at EPA has been marked by controversy. Jackson is widely viewed as the chief architect of the Obama administration’s “wars” on energy, coal and climate. Jackson routinely ventured beyond the authority given her by Congress as she broadened Clean Air Act to define CO2 as a pollutant and used trace amount of mercury to thwart electricity generation.

Click for the FULL details www.cfact.org/?s=jackson on the damage Lisa Jackson has done to the American economy and American energy.

Let us hope President Obama uses Lisa Jackson’s resignation as an opportunity to move EPA back to the constructive center and not as an opportunity to reward Green campaigners for their political support in the recent U.S. elections. America cannot afford to add to the crushing regulatory burden Lisa Jackson leaves behind her.

[aubrey]

Here's a non-Republican view of the same story.

[marchesarosa]

It will be so nice when you can respond to a point without indulging in silly party political partisanship, Aubrey. You know there is a whole world of intellectual debate out there which NEVER refers to political parties. You've obviously been hanging around exco, too long!

What about CO2 being declared an air pollutant under the Clean Air legislation? Co2 is what YOU breath out. It is not "air pollution" in any sense of the word.

What about using a pseudonym to evade FOI searches? Is that only OK for those YOU approve of?

[aubrey]

CO2 can kill you if there is enough of it. Like water. It's ok in the right place, and the right quantity/concentration.

Besides, I always understood the argument not to be that it is poisonous.

I don't know enough about the FOI stuff. I was just putting another - partisan - view in reply to your - partisan - view. I found one thing about her on a right wing site that had comments calling her - and Obama - Nazis. These were from Republicans. And it is Republicans - mainly - who don't like the way the EPA has gone: asking people who live in an area that is going to be effected by drilling, etc, rather than just the politicians and energy companies, for god's sake - what kind of person is she?

[marchesarosa]

CO2 can kill you if there is enough of it

So can oxygen. Don't be disingenuous, Aubrey. This does not make it a "pollutant" under the Clean Air Act.

Or is it OK for words to change their meaning in the interests of propaganda?

And how about her deliberate, with malice aforethought, evasion of FOI searches by using a pseudonym?

[aubrey]

The problem with CO2 is not that it's that it's poisonous, and you know that.

I don't know about the FOI stuff. Probably not a good thing: but how many genuine requests was she getting? And how many were repeated requests from right wing anti AGW sites (all asking for the same thing)? Multiple FOI requests can be used as a tactic, not to get information but to waste time, like a DOS attack.

[marchesarosa]

The EPA Is Politicized—So Make It Official

This federal regulatory agency, like many others, would be better run by a bipartisan commission.

BY STEVEN F. HAYWARD

Lisa Jackson, who announced on Dec. 27 that she was stepping down as head of the Environmental Protection Agency, will be leaving under a cloud. It turns out that she had been using an email account, under the alias "Richard Windsor," to conduct official business, in an apparent attempt to evade federal transparency laws, including the Freedom of Information Act. After the account came to light in the fall, the Justice Department agreed to release thousands of emails later this month.

This disturbing episode is only one of many under Ms. Jackson's administration. Will her successor be any better?

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323320404578216034024416590.html?mod=ITP_opinion_0

[aubrey]

But the arguments against it are not politicised?

[marchesarosa]

The question is should bureaucrats evade legitimate FOIA searches by using pseudonyms? Got an answer for that, aubrey? Or is it OK for "left-wingers" to thwart the public interest?

Oops, your partisanship is showing, aubrey. I would have taken you for a supporter of Freedom of Information. How circumstances do seem to alter cases!

[aubrey]

The point is, organised trolling - multiple requests designed to waste time and cost money.

I've already answered the partinsanship thing: the people who didn't like here, and were doing the requests, were mostly right wing.

[jean]

Jan 5, 2013 20:28:37 GMT marchesarosa said:

You know there is a whole world of intellectual debate out there which NEVER refers to political parties...

This sort of thing, you mean?

Jan 23, 2013 16:02:21 GMT ncsonde said:

Then of course there was that other hero of you socialist utopians, Saddam Hussein...And those other great leaders of the Socialist Ba'ath Party - Bashar al-Assad and the much lamented Muammar Gaddafi: how will the Green movement survive without their inspiring leadership?...

[marchesarosa]

Seems the attempts to avoid transparency and to circumvent Freedom of Info legislation by using private email accounts to conduct agency business is the norm in the upper echelons of the EPA!

‘Richard Windsor’ EPA scandal spreads, EPA Administrator James Martin resigns over hidden email accounts

wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/19/breaking-richard-windsor-epa-scandal-spreads-epa-administrator-james-martin-resigns-over-hidden-email-accounts/

What do you folks who, like me, applaud whistle blowing and the publishing of state secrets think about this?

[marchesarosa]

Here's a perceptive comment from Rick Bradford on Bishop Hill.
bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/2/19/friends-of-richard.html

you could say that a great many people in the West have been taught that the only thing that matters is their feelings, and notions such as inquiry, fact and truth are outmoded.

When personal feelings are the sole basis of someone's authenticity, then all kinds of behaviour will emerge which deviates from the now discredited notions of values and integrity.

Gleick is another obvious case that comes to mind -- his excuse for lying to Heartland was his "frustration" at their anti-Alarmist activities.

Many people have become so immature as to think that their feelings of "frustration" or "moral outrage" (Monbiot) must be assuaged at all costs and that any action is therefore justified.

I think this applies to Greens in spades. Not, jean, of course, her interest in Greenery only extends as far as its support for gay "marriage", I suspect. No surprise that Greenery got its first toehold in the UK in Brighton, gay capital of the kingdom, of all places.

[marchesarosa]

‘Let me say it as simply as I can: Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.’

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/07/the-most-transparent-administration-ever-doctors-its-quotes/259857/

Who said that? Didn't the EPA get the memo?

[aubrey]

Are Heartland the ones who did multiple (trolling) FOI applications? And aren't they the ones who are funded by the Koch brothers (amongst others)?