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Post by cleefarqhuar on Dec 9, 2013 17:08:24 GMT
Goodness me the hype is overwhelming! No hyperbole is too hyper, no hagiology overhaggs the pudding, no syrup is too sticky, no sentiment too sicky; statesmen drool unashamedly, BBC Directors on £400k pa demand abasement, sackcloth and humility, self-righteous Leftist atheists demand Beatification and Canonisation from the Vatican, PC choristers sing happy laments eyes brimming with tears that search for uncrying racists ; White black men beat their backs with chained blades, blood streaming down their perfect bodies to wash away the accumulated sins of the white race Golly gosh, it has never been like this since Saint Diana perished at the evil hands of The Duke of Edinburgh driving a Fiat Punto in a Parisian Tunnel! Who would dare to speak evil of the Venerable Mandela? Well,if you do , this is what might happen to you Is Mandela the reincarnation of Mohammed (PBUH) for Chrissake? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520662/Neil-Phillips-quizzed-8-HOURS-police-Nelson-Mandela-Twitter-jokes.html
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Post by pippop on Dec 9, 2013 18:11:03 GMT
Goodness me the hype is overwhelming! No hyperbole is too hyper, no hagiology overhaggs the pudding, no syrup is too sticky, no sentiment too sicky; statesmen drool unashamedly, BBC Directors on £400k pa demand abasement, sackcloth and humility, self-righteous Leftist atheists demand Beatification and Canonisation from the Vatican, PC choristers sing happy laments eyes brimming with tears that search for uncrying racists ; White black men beat their backs with chained blades, blood streaming down their perfect bodies to wash away the accumulated sins of the white race Golly gosh, it has never been like this since Saint Diana perished at the evil hands of The Duke of Edinburgh driving a Fiat Punto in a Parisian Tunnel! Who would dare to speak evil of the Venerable Mandela? Well,if you do , this is what might happen to you Is Mandela the reincarnation of Mohammed (PBUH) for Chrissake? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520662/Neil-Phillips-quizzed-8-HOURS-police-Nelson-Mandela-Twitter-jokes.htmlCalm down and try not to be quite so emotional. Do you need a banana?
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Post by aquatic on Dec 10, 2013 0:49:17 GMT
I too thought Britain – or was it just England? – had lost its senses over Diana’s death. I avoided the coverage as much as I could, and thought some members of my family had succumbed to collective hysteria, and told them so. (But they didn’t listen; they were in a sort of trance.) She was obviously an infinitely less substantial and hard-done-by figure than Mandela, and a much more divisive one.
She may have suffered at the hands – or minds - of a dysfunctional family and press. But at the hands and minds of a state and all its apparatus?
No doubt the Queen will have deserved what comes to her in commemoration when she finally goes. Tho a long-time anti-monarchist, I won’t begrudge her, much. She told me once that she’d read di Lampedusa’s Leopard in the early 60s (when Charles was reading Mein Kampf at Gordonstoun) and that his 'If we want things to stay as they are, things will have to change' had had a great effect on her. Bingo!
And I will feel sorry for her, for her imprisonment with hard labour in the monarchy for so many years.
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Post by ncsonde on Dec 10, 2013 3:21:46 GMT
I too thought Britain – or was it just England? – had lost its senses over Diana’s death. I avoided the coverage as much as I could, and thought some members of my family had succumbed to collective hysteria, and told them so. (But they didn’t listen; they were in a sort of trance.) She was obviously an infinitely less substantial and more hard-done-by figure than Mandela, and a much more divisive one. Symbolically she was less "substantial", perhaps; but then she was less than half his age when she died. At her age Mandela had achieved very little, and that by dint of being born a "prince". Judging by her trajectory after her divorce, and her expressed ambition (whatever else she was, she was extremely wilful, determined, and resourceful) I think it's a reasonable conjecture that she would have gone on to have made a global impact, in her own right, for her own achievements, for the common good. That was the general sense at the time, I think. That, and the widespread genuine affection as a person that she inspired. Not universally, of course. If she had blown up various pieces of infrastructure around the country, plotted guerrilla warfare, and set up a network of training camps to teach children how to effect such warfare to overthrow the State and replace it with a Marxist regime, then perhaps the affection she inspired would have been even greater. Here and there.
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Post by ncsonde on Dec 10, 2013 3:29:34 GMT
What's a little disappointing about Diana, though, was the idle and feckless way she lounged in poverty after her divorce. Mandela had managed to accumulate a ten million dollar fortune within two years of being released from prison, lived in two palatial mansions for the rest of his life, and left at his death trusts worth well over one hundred million. She couldn't even afford a taxi to get her around Paris.
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Post by ncsonde on Dec 10, 2013 3:48:34 GMT
And then - look at her friends! The disgraceful way she supported and helped prop up in power totalitarian exploitative assholes like Elton John and Gianni Versace! She didn't put all her wealth and influence to help people like Jacob Zuma (who may have been a known corrupt fraudster and multiple rapist but let's not be racist folks, it's Africa) into power as leader of her country. What did she do to help Robert Mugabe maintain his role as great liberator of his people?
At least they had Tony Blair in common - according to the great Tony, at least, judging by the way he's muscled in on every TV studio in the land over the past few days. Maybe that's where Mandela learnt how to make such a fortune. Reportedly, most of it came from selling off for five dollars each his handprints to his grateful people, so they could insulate their tin shacks and have something to read. A marked entrepreneurial improvement on Cheri's little enterprise with Tony's signature, I think.
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