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Post by admin on Dec 3, 2009 15:42:34 GMT
i have been thinking - a rare occurrence - so feel special... it's surely not very PC to deny the non-PC a voiceWho is denying them a voice? are are they denying themselves? A Free Speech argument is insufficient reason to publicly abuse anyone just because you can do something does not mean you should do it. You are not being asked to change what you think only not to publicly insult on grounds of race, sexuality etc etc Of course the clever one know how to insult using coded language look at Nick Griffin anyone who comes on this, or any other board, with a view to getting it deleted because people are allowed to speak as they find, is denying people a chance to express their thoughts. i find the term political correctness quite offensive myself. it makes me feel queasy.
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Post by iamspecial on Dec 3, 2009 16:05:24 GMT
anyone who comes on this, or any other board, with a view to getting it deleted because people are allowed to speak as they find, is denying people a chance to express their thoughts. i find the term political correctness quite offensive myself. it makes me feel queasy. Why are you presuming that I am here to delete this board, I am not denying anyone the right to speech but the Laws of California which govern this board may think differently. The Women's Hours board was a public assess board ANYONE could read it, the spy-bots trawl through daily, things that were said can be goggled. You may feel queasy about political correctness but I have felt sickened too by racism, homophobia, sexism etc etc Lets face it one can insult without referring to "political incorrect " words. Some one can be a meddling witch but not an old one Someone can be a git but not a black or gay one As I said earlier use of politically incorrect terms is just lazy and sloppy
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 3, 2009 16:09:10 GMT
So we clearly have a ways to go in sophistication!
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Post by admin on Dec 3, 2009 16:09:23 GMT
i'm not presuming anything other than that any member here would discuss problems regarding content with admin before snitching to Proboards.
we all know the law is often an ass.
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Post by iamspecial on Dec 3, 2009 16:25:06 GMT
Well when I was a mod I also made sure that posts stayed within the terms of service, proboards are very helpful if you ask for help.
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Post by admin on Dec 3, 2009 16:32:31 GMT
yes they can be very helpful.
they only ever get dragged into a dispute/start deleting if a member forgets that the first port of call is the board's admin, and tells tales to Proboards before discussing the matter in an adult way with moderators.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 3, 2009 21:25:19 GMT
It is only recently that news programmes have started saying the a crime suspect was white, as well as when they were black. So, for quite a long time, it seemed as if all criminals were black; or maybe you were supposed to infer that the ones whose colour was a secret were white?
I remember someone in The Telegraph saying the New York was a very PC city because all the pavements have ramps for wheelchairs. Now, one thing: is there anything wrong with that? And another thing: so do pavements in London - all over England in fact. There was a bloke who had never walked anywhere.
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Post by iamspecial on Dec 4, 2009 6:07:42 GMT
I remember someone in The Telegraph saying the New York was a very PC city because all the pavements have ramps for wheelchairs. Now, one thing: is there anything wrong with that? And another thing: so do pavements in London - all over England in fact. There was a bloke who had never walked anywhere. Thats a really good point ensuring access for disabled people would be PC. Legislation has been needed to get better provision and its not perfect yet.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 10:45:36 GMT
There is NOTHING politically correct about helping/enabling the afflicted to lead a normal life.
This is the nasty self-congratulation at the heart of the PC lobby. They cannot see beyond it.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 4, 2009 18:52:37 GMT
Everyone is politically correct, though. It is only the lefties who get any grief for it (would the Telegraph print an article saying that Thatcherism was morally bankrupt, for eg?)
Anyway, isn't a bit of self congratulation worth putting up with, if buses stop zooming past people in wheelchairs at bus stops? (For one thing.) Because it was only when people started feeling ashamed about attitudes to the disabled (due mainly to the "PC Lobby") that anti discrimination laws were passed.
Most of the ridiculous PC terms - Vertically/Follically challenged, etc - have never been said other than ironically - sort of "Isn't this stupid?" Well, it would be, if anyone really said it.
What the anti-pc lobby can't stand is the kind of person "who takes anti-racism to the ridiculous extreme of actually being anti racist." (Stephen Fry - very early 80s.) A lot of them don't believe that anyone can be like that, so they use the term PC to imply that no one can actually believe what they say but are just saying it to be cool, or to keep in with the crowd.
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Post by iamspecial on Dec 4, 2009 21:02:55 GMT
There is NOTHING politically correct about helping/enabling the afflicted to lead a normal life. But that is the heart of "political correctness", its about trying to make a more level playing field.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 21:20:30 GMT
Earth moving seems a poor subsitute for compassion and excellence.
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Post by iamspecial on Dec 4, 2009 22:08:36 GMT
Earth moving seems a poor subsitute for compassion and excellence. You just dont get it do you? So is equality legislation political correctness?
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Post by pippa on Dec 4, 2009 22:38:44 GMT
actually, i find that jumping down peoples throats for referring to them as ladies rather than women is crazy pc, as seen all too often on the bbc wh board - there, pc seemed to be very much a question of terminology and use of language. an intollerance towards language rather than intent.
awareness and education to drop crass thinking and behaviour is not something i would refer to as 'political correctness'. having empathy and understanding is being a decent person - nothing to do with political correctness.
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Post by marchesarosa on Dec 4, 2009 22:50:09 GMT
I don't know what quality legislation is. But then I'm not in the Political Correctness Business, so I wouldn't, would I?
Just an ordinary woman treating everyone I come across in the best way I can. As my parents set the example to me.
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