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Post by ncsonde on Oct 23, 2014 12:25:09 GMT
And if you really want to try to be accurate and precise, as well as merely pedantic, you really ought to correct your false and frankly racist characterisations of those cottage-burnings. Some of their owners were English. One was Irish, another a Scottish doctor. The Englsih were not "incomers" - charming term - but holiday home owners. The two men who set fire to them were - I could name them - a Spanish immigrant, and an Irishman. The whole of the Welsh population awaits your correction, and your apology. I am not sure I can quite do that, Nick. Much as I should like to exonerate every single Welsh person from the charge of cottage-burning, and to attribute cottage-burning to a genetic defect found in a Spanish immigrant, and an Irishman, I am sorry to have to tell you that more cottages were burned than could ever have been the work of just those two, however diligently they applied themselves to the task. Wrong - just two. They had three or four hangers-on, as I've said. And strictly speaking, he wasn't an Irishman, but a Romany, so he claimed at least.# Wrong again. I've told you, I heard all their stories, every last one of them, over a year of spending every evening with the idiots. They did it all - there was no one else.
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Post by ncsonde on Oct 23, 2014 12:26:54 GMT
Go back to your rocker, Great-Aunty.
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Post by lovelybottom on Oct 23, 2014 12:27:07 GMT
So it's size of vocabulary. I though it might have been. And? Linguists don;t recognise grammatical structures and the consistent use of? You say you once taught Latin? Amo, amas, abat. If I say: "they is some damp bath" you might not immediately grasp my meaning. That is - I haven't used the language we're conversing in very well. You would have to auto-correct it yourself, "you're a daft bat" to deliver an appropriate response. More nastiness. See?
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Post by jean on Oct 23, 2014 12:31:18 GMT
Linguists don't recognise grammatical structures and the consistent use of? Yes of course. I pointed out earlier that Welsh has morphological features - similar to If Welsh people aren't observing those grammatical conventions (they certainly learn them in school, as my niece and nephews did), then it's hardly the language itself that lacks polish, is it? English of course avoids the problem by abandoning almost all its inflections.
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Post by jean on Oct 23, 2014 12:38:50 GMT
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Post by lovelybottom on Oct 23, 2014 12:39:32 GMT
I am not sure I can quite do that, Nick. Much as I should like to exonerate every single Welsh person from the charge of cottage-burning, and to attribute cottage-burning to a genetic defect found in a Spanish immigrant, and an Irishman, I am sorry to have to tell you that more cottages were burned than could ever have been the work of just those two, however diligently they applied themselves to the task. Wrong - just two. They had three or four hangers-on, as I've said. And strictly speaking, he wasn't an Irishman, but a Romany, so he claimed at least.# Wrong again. I've told you, I heard all their stories, every last one of them, over a year of spending every evening with the idiots. They did it all - there was no one else. What happened when you reported all of this to the police?
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Post by lovelybottom on Oct 23, 2014 12:41:19 GMT
They did it all - there was no one else. Still, at least I've never described any Welsh person as snaggle-toothed.Only a nasty person would do a thing like that.
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Post by aqua on Oct 23, 2014 22:07:33 GMT
I have nothing at all against mixed race and mixed religion marriages . Muslims, however, abhor this idea with a vengeance! They will not entertain mixed religion matches which is why aqua's son had to convert to Islam first. Actually, you've got it wrong, MR, as I've told you so often. So stop exploiting what little you do know, at my relatives' and my expense. Are you human?
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Post by marchesarosa on Oct 24, 2014 16:02:04 GMT
Diktat
Can you provide a synonym that the nice people can use without stigma?
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Post by lovelybottom on Oct 25, 2014 10:17:53 GMT
Diktat Can you provide a synonym that the nice people can use without stigma? Do you want to pretend to be nice? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by marchesarosa on Oct 26, 2014 10:53:39 GMT
This means you cannot produce a synonym.
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Post by jean on Oct 26, 2014 12:53:33 GMT
To look for a synonym is to miss the point. People (nasty people?) use the word diktat to impute nastiness to others. Thus Nick on this thread writes of what (in his opinion) I should do, that (in his opinion) I have not done, according to the diktats he thinks I impose on others in my high-handed way. He appears to mean that I have not done enough, according to the accuracy and precision I regard as desirable when making statements of any kind, to distance myself from the impression I have unintentionally given that I consider all Welsh people to be extremists of a pyromaniac disposition. But I don't think anyone but Nick thought I meant that. I don't suppose he thought so either, really. So there is no need for me to apologise to the entire Welsh people, because nobody would seriously think I had accused them all of cottage-burning, nor would I expect anyone else who pointed out that no-one in Wales was burning cottages any more to apologise for saying that. Therefore there is no need for any talk of diktats in this context; it follows that there's no need for any synonym. I will, however, continue to point out that statements such as There are many towns and cities and boroughs where...English is a minority language heard in those districts. Most of inner city London, for example. are simply not true, and might just be misleading in a way that the statement of mine that Nick demands I apologise for was not.
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Post by marchesarosa on Oct 27, 2014 14:10:25 GMT
You've simply proved again that there is no synonym for "diktat", jean, no matter who is using it or whoever it is applied to.
To categorise people as nice or nasty is adolescent and certainly has no political/social meaning.
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Post by jean on Oct 27, 2014 14:54:04 GMT
You've simply proved again that there is no synonym for "diktat", jean, no matter who is using it or whoever it is applied to. What I have shown is that there's no need for the word at all in normal discourse, because there's no need for the concept it denotes. Therefore there's no need for a synonym.If you really want a synonym though, you could use a decree, ruling, or directive; a categorical assertion or prescription. Accusing someone you're talking to of issuing one of those might make you sound a bit nicer, but not much. (The word is originally German, and is first found in English in the 1920s to refer to the settlement imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles.) That was something a guest wrote, not me. I couldn't possibly comment.
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Post by sweetjessicajane on Oct 27, 2014 16:42:28 GMT
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