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Post by cleefarqhuar on Nov 27, 2014 19:48:28 GMT
A UKIP devotee has encountered some derision after tweeting that the BBC's announcement of Nigel's intention to stand in Thanet was intentionally filmed in front of a mosque Here is the mosque in question: Well, you must admit, it LOOKs like a frigging mosque If it aint, then what are those there wailing towers where Imams sing for and what prat put in Moorish arches, Presumably some Morrocan immigrant pining for bludy Marrakech or Casablanca (have you seen Casablanca for God's sake- a right shit-hole, - no wonder Humphrey Bogarted that joint!) What is a White Man Van-driver to make of it all? If it looks foreign it bludy well is foreign Bloody Catholics, appeasing the Islamic lot at Westminster (have you noticed they both wear dresses, yet both condemn tranvestitism?) Whats wrong with English GOTHIC arches and soaring flying buttresses and the glorious stained glass cathedrals of REAl CofE England? One thing is for sure - when the Islamic lot gain a majority in London (expected 2nd week of December) then they will certainly make this edifice a Mosque, just like they did in Cordoba and Hagia Sophia - the unChristian bastards!
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Post by aquatic on Nov 27, 2014 22:50:12 GMT
When I first saw W Cathedral I thought it was a power station.
Then I realised it was.
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 28, 2014 11:28:47 GMT
What you may think is Isamic architecture in spirit, nay, is actually copied from the Byzantine Church of Holy Wisdom in Constantinople built in 537 by Christians, long before Islam ever raised its ugly head in the region and predating the mosques subsequently built in "Istanbul" after the fall of Constantinople by nearly a millennium. The builders of the modern cathedral you posted above probably knew more about the history of Christian architecture than you do, I'm afraid, nay. What a grand old lady she is! Battered and bruised by time but still standing as a testament to those blessed pre-Islamic times. The minarets were added by muslims post conquest.
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Post by jean on Nov 28, 2014 12:52:58 GMT
Haven't you rather missed the point, marchesa?
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Post by Joanne Byers on Nov 28, 2014 13:54:10 GMT
Prat.
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 28, 2014 15:46:18 GMT
I am merely addressing the architectural error, jean.
I think I have had this discussion before with you and your pal on MCL?
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Post by jean on Nov 28, 2014 23:28:24 GMT
It isn't really an architectural error, marchesa. Anyone who knows anything about architecture knows that there are many features shared by both Byzantine and Islamic varieties. No, it was cultural ignorance on the part of the Kippers who did not recognise one of the most famous Christian churches in the country. Here, to help them, is a list of some more things that are not mosques, but might easily be thought to be by people such as those we're talking about: time.com/3609303/ukip-nigel-farage-westminster-cathedral-mosque/(The OP was one of cleefy's wittier posts, as a matter of fact.)
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Post by aquatic on Nov 29, 2014 0:35:45 GMT
When I went to Palma Cathedral, I was amazed at the amount of Islamic-influenced art inside it.
As I understand it, Christians razed most of the mosque on the site in symbolic triumph over the Muslims, but still used most of the remaining Islamic building for Christian worship for many years. And built the cathedral around it.
I don't think I've ever seen such a beautiful building managing to show such respect to both religions. And me an atheist, or agnostic at least.
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Post by jean on Nov 29, 2014 0:40:10 GMT
Have you ever been to Palermo, aqua?
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 29, 2014 10:57:07 GMT
Maybe. But the Byzantine Christian Architecture came FIRST in that particular chronology and the model for it was the Church of Holy Wisdom in Constantinople which was widely copied by the Turkish mosque architects for its beauty even though it was nearly a thousand years old by the time Constantinople fell. It was, of course, based on the Roman semi-circular arch that was ubiquitous around the Mediterranean courtesy of the Roman Empire and an improvement on the more limited lintel and column space spanning construction of the Greek World that preceded it.
Subsequent muslim architects copied Roman/Byzantine architecture and later also introduced the pointed arch which permitted more flexibility in design than the semi-circular arch of the previous Roman tradition. I would assume that the pre-Islamic conquest Christian churches of Portugal and Spain were also Roman/Romanesque in style though I haven't looked into it. Another guess is that the subsequent development from Christian Romanesque architecture in Europe into more graceful Gothic came courtesy of the pointed arch which was a borrowing from Islamic architecture.
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Post by jean on Nov 29, 2014 13:12:05 GMT
...the Byzantine Christian Architecture came FIRST in that particular chronology... Is that so very important? The Greeks and Romans came first - does that mean we have to downgrade all those Renaissance architects who copied and developed theeir styles? Besides, you may well be right when you say
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 29, 2014 15:45:28 GMT
I mention all the above because it is a common misconception that the mosques of Istanbul are "Islamic" architecture when they are, in fact, close copies of the greatest Christian Basilica ever built - The Church of Holy Wisdom completed in 537, nearly a millennium before the Turks occupied Constantinople.
Of course, you won't find muslims or the politically correct apologists for them conceding (or even KNOWING) this. Sadly Byzantium is largely ignored in the West and probably forgotten by most Turks and that is why Byzantine "style" architecture (like Westminster Cathedral) is mistaken for the many subsequent Islamic "omages" to Hagia Sofia - whether it be by UKIP spokesmen or anyone else.
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Post by jean on Nov 29, 2014 16:02:11 GMT
That is not the point, marchesa. The point is that these idiots failed to recognise a very famous building.
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 29, 2014 16:45:13 GMT
But how about Green liar Natalie Bennet attracting some "derision" for her claim yesterday on Any Questions that the UK was "falling behind the rest of the world" in renewable energy provision?
Whaaat?
The UK has more offshore wind turbines than the rest of the world put together. Sorry, Natalie, you are an ill informed bigot. Or, more likely, an ideologically driven liar. No-one picked her up on her blatant falsehood. No-one knew, I guess, just like a vanishing small proportion of the population recognise Westminster Cathedral.
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 29, 2014 16:48:41 GMT
No, that's YOUR point, jean
Anyone who does not pass through Central London could easily be unaware of Westminster Cathedral. I had to check up myself just to be sure.
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