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Post by visitor on Sept 17, 2010 17:01:34 GMT
Get back over there at once, all of you, and argue the hell out of Lazarus, without persecuting the poor lad, of course! He'll be feeling he is not fulfilling his remit if he doesn't attract a least a little flak. Too late - he's been banned as well. Pretty soon the 'Environment' board over there will be as interactive and busy as this one. It's pretty clear that the administrators of that board have their own agenda - has anyone wondered just who the 'Patron' they refer to is? I could get a little silly and start alluding to conspiracy theories along the lines of 'The Prisoner' but I'm not that way inclined.
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Post by rsmith77 on Sept 17, 2010 21:46:16 GMT
Nah visitor, the warmists are very quiet because they've had their guns confiscated - unbridled cat-peeing and sympathetic/biased moderators. The new board allows free and frank exchanges with minimal interference. Don't get all paranoid - I've had several bollockings from the mods. All because I'm too stupid to ignore the traps laid by the warmists. It's interesting to note they are very uncomfortable with free debate.
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Post by StuartG on Sept 18, 2010 9:03:10 GMT
"Isaac Asimov distinguished between two types of scientific heretic: "Endoheretics are appropriately credentialed scientists. If the person is outside the scientific community or at least outside of his specialty, he is an exoheretic. If a person is an endoheretic, he will be considered as eccentric and incompetent, whereas if the person is an exoheretic, he will be regarded as a crackpot, charlatan, or fraud."" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy#Selected_quotations"I could get a little silly and start alluding to conspiracy theories along the lines of 'The Prisoner' but I'm not that way inclined." So why mention it? You 'go for broke' and mention everything You dislike, and then justify it with examples, a-n-d 'quelle horreur!' sign Your name. To quote another tv series, Perry Mason.... 'Incompetent, irrevalent and immaterial' Anon. www.democracyforum.co.uk/british-police-state/67107-obnoxious-ipcc.html#post758031
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Post by Joe K on Oct 1, 2010 13:55:41 GMT
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Post by pippa on Nov 3, 2010 14:01:29 GMT
hmmm, so that's jean on the new science board. not sure about the nickname though, simplex? - herpes?
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Post by pippa on Nov 5, 2010 10:06:49 GMT
the poster abacus, says yesterday:
<quote> Simplex, I'm afraid to say that you come over as a troublemaker. <quote>
quelle surprise!
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Post by Joe K on Dec 23, 2010 10:33:20 GMT
No disrespect to Jean, but I was particularly impressed with the clarity of Simplex's arguments. Jean is good, but she's not that good...
I might be wrong, of course, and it's possible that using an alias gives one a sense of a 'fresh start', and the opportunity to address the issues at hand, rather than being dragged into a b**ching session. Whether Jean is Simplex or not, Carnyx is going to keep saying she is, so not a lot of intelligent conversation is going to ensue now.
Will anyone intervene as Carnyx, Nay and Abacus (and StuartG?) 'pile on' to Simplex?
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Post by jean on Dec 23, 2010 11:27:39 GMT
It isn't any 'piling in' on simplex that will damage the board, so much as the attacks on STA by nay and carnyx.
I'm not enough of a scientist to know how much substance there is in them, but the tone in which they are being conducted is breathtakingly nasty - and the board is dying as a result. Who would post anything if it was likely to be received in such a way?
Both naymissus and carnyx (sim from the Beeb) are practising engineers who worked their way up from the ranks, without benefit of a university education. When you know that, you understand their constant sneering and sniping at academic institutions and all who teach in them.
I'd hoped that NickCosmoSonde's appearance would lead to a higher level of argument and so it did, for a time; but I think he has got tired of the nastiness and gone away again.
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Post by visitor on Dec 23, 2010 13:06:55 GMT
I find it very odd that Havelock, Helen, Lazarus, Kiteman, Enquirer and others were all banned from that site for their supposed 'harassment' of Marchessarosa (which I think was spectacularly mild for a message board) yet Naymissus' treatment of STA is allowed to continue unchallenged.
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Post by pippa on Dec 23, 2010 17:46:24 GMT
No disrespect to Jean, but I was particularly impressed with the clarity of Simplex's arguments. Jean is good, but she's not that good... pull the other one! simplex is there to stir the shit with old adversaries of hers. anyone who is aware of her mo will know this. nay pile into simplex? i shall go and have a look. as far as i am aware nay will not give simplex the time of day, anywhere on any of the boards they share, let along deign to respond to anything she ever posts to him or about him. has this changed now? .
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Post by pippa on Dec 23, 2010 17:56:42 GMT
I might be wrong, of course, and it's possible that using an alias gives one a sense of a 'fresh start', and the opportunity to address the issues at hand, what? science? jean has confessed she is out of her depth when it comes to discussion on science. " dragged in" did you say? you are funny, joek, simplex is not there for intelligent discussion because as i've said she admits to being out of her depth on the subject of science. go and have a look at simplex aka jean posting history on the science board and see if there is a single contribution about science.
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Post by jean on Dec 23, 2010 18:05:24 GMT
Well, pippa, it does not seem to me to be unreasonable for a poster to draw attention to how posters are arguing. Especially on threads that are supposed to be friendly.
I can't help noticing that Mercury hasn't posted much about science, either.
But that doesn't matter, does it, if he has something important to say?
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Post by pippa on Dec 24, 2010 0:39:39 GMT
Will anyone intervene as Carnyx, Nay and Abacus (and StuartG?) 'pile on' to Simplex? can you please show an example of where nay piles into simplex? anywhere. yes please and stuartG as well for that matter. looks to me as though you are deliberately misrepresenting the situation and plumping up the numbers.
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Post by Joe K on Dec 25, 2010 0:55:32 GMT
No disrespect to Jean, but I was particularly impressed with the clarity of Simplex's arguments. Jean is good, but she's not that good... pull the other one! Are you implying that I'm lying? It must be nice to be so certain of the motivations of people you don't know From what I can recall, only one poster in particular has challenged Simplex. I think it was Abacus. My question, you'll notice was couched in future tense... ' Will anyone intervene as*..?' Instead of just going to 'have a look', why don't you post? Don't you see the need to intervene on a board where Naymissus gets to have his own way, while others get banned for looking at the owners sideways? Even Marchessa prefers to post her anti-AGW material over there, rather than this forum that was especially created for her. I don't see why you wouldn't be posting there, or are you using a different name? *sure, I could have used 'if', but that's a minor detail.
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Post by Joe K on Dec 25, 2010 1:16:18 GMT
I might be wrong, of course, and it's possible that using an alias gives one a sense of a 'fresh start', and the opportunity to address the issues at hand, what? science? jean has confessed she is out of her depth when it comes to discussion on science. Yes, but science is hardly what the 'Science Forum' is about, is it? It's entirely possible to have a discussion about how serious scientific topics are traduced by Nay with his 'Darwin you old bastard*' inanities. Or it would be if it wasn't so easy to get banned for commenting on the double standards. I know everyone seems to use smallcase with their names on this board, but I'm curious as to why you keep referring to me as 'joek'? If the space is too much trouble, feel free to omit the 'k' as well... As I have already said, science is not really the focus of that board, though the owner sold it as an alternative to the closing Beeb science board. Plaudits to anyone who can hold the chosen few up to scrutiny (though I think they may have finally come to realise that they can't keep silencing objective voices and be taken seriously). *do you remember when people used to ask posters to edit out language like 'shit' on these boards, even though they were actually quoting Marchessa? I think you've come to understand how relaxed standards are on the 'net, and the word filter certainly isn't abused here like it is on the science forum.
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