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Post by Joe K on Dec 25, 2010 1:21:01 GMT
And I should stop spelling 'Marchesa' wrong...
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Post by pippa on Dec 25, 2010 1:57:00 GMT
And I should stop spelling 'Marchesa' wrong... pronounced maar-'K'-za , not marchessa. although jean will probably come and tell us it's a soft 's'.
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Post by jean on Dec 25, 2010 10:33:44 GMT
although jean will probably come and tell us it's a soft 's'. Why on earth would you expect me to do that, pippa? You are perfectly right, as anyone who didn't know could find out for themselves. But what interests me is why the poster simplex is getting all this flak for posts about posting, while the poster mercury, who does the same, goes unremarked.
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Post by pippa on Dec 25, 2010 19:37:28 GMT
it was only a throw away comment. wasn't sure whether in some places it might be a soft 's' and naturally thought you'd be the one to know.
do lighten up, jean, it's christmas.
merry christmas!
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Post by jean on Dec 26, 2010 10:08:17 GMT
Doesn't that illustrate how easy it is to misunderstand the tone of a messageboard post?
I genuinely thought you were suggesting that I would be likely to disagree with you whatever you said, however right you were.
Now that you've explained, I can see that I misread your post, and I apologise.
Merry Christmas!
(I'd still like to hear what you think of the contributions of the poster mercury to the Science board, though.)
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Post by pippa on Dec 26, 2010 14:38:27 GMT
(I'd still like to hear what you think of the contributions of the poster mercury to the Science board, though.) what, this? (looks to me as though the poster mercury stepped in early to warn the moderator and others on the science forum, right at the outset, of a revolting libellous and slanderous accusation being repeated again [fact]. mercury also urged that the moderator there of the possibility of it getting out of hand as it did elsewhere ( this board). of course unlike the way the moderator, you jean, handled the situation on this board. ) and your point is, jean?
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Post by pippa on Dec 26, 2010 15:33:35 GMT
I find it very odd that Havelock, Helen, Lazarus, Kiteman, Enquirer and others were all banned from that site for their supposed 'harassment' of Marchessarosa (which I think was spectacularly mild for a message board) yet Naymissus' treatment of STA is allowed to continue unchallenged. not the very same havelock, helen, lazarus, kiteman, enquirer and others (where's yellowcat btw) who hounded marhesarosa on the now defunct beeb science board by any chance. but where do you fit in, in all of that, visitor? curious... well, well, i must say it is heart warming to know there are others who share my view of the way things are. nice also to see just deserts for a change. a wise moderator for a change, imo.
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Post by pippa on Dec 26, 2010 15:44:35 GMT
nay pile into simplex? i shall go and have a look. as far as i am aware nay will not give simplex the time of day, anywhere on any of the boards they share, let along deign to respond to anything she ever posts to him or about him. has this changed now? From what I can recall, only one poster in particular has challenged Simplex. I think it was Abacus. My question, you'll notice was couched in future tense... ' Will anyone intervene as..?' "Will anyone intervene as Carnyx, Nay and Abacus (and StuartG?) 'pile on' to Simplex? " is what you said. " as" or "if", no matter. and i'm supposed to respond to this, am i? please, dont waste my time.
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Post by jean on Dec 26, 2010 17:23:58 GMT
My point is, pippa, that when you say ...go and have a look at simplex...posting history on the science board and see if there is a single contribution about science. you imply that a poster who has never posted about science has no business posting on the Science board at all. And yet you excuse mercury his non-science-related posts, because you've decided his reasons for posting are good ones. That's all.
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Post by pippa on Dec 26, 2010 22:37:22 GMT
My point is, pippa, that when you say ...go and have a look at simplex...posting history on the science board and see if there is a single contribution about science. you imply that a poster who has never posted about science has no business posting on the Science board at all. And yet you excuse mercury his non-science-related posts, because you've decided his reasons for posting are good ones. That's all. no i didn't imply anything of the sort. if you remember, my response which you quote above, was a reply to joek's comment about intelligent discussion on the science board which i'd assumed he meant intelligent conversation on science topics. i don't " excuse" mercury anything. mercury's post quite rightly pre-empted anyone forming an impression that the defamation against another poster there had any validation.
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Post by jean on Dec 27, 2010 10:10:20 GMT
no i didn't imply anything of the sort. Whatever you say, pippa. Funny, I read it as a monumental piece of stirring. But we'll never know, will we, unless mercury comes and tells us what he meant?
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Post by pippa on Dec 27, 2010 16:09:44 GMT
no i didn't imply anything of the sort. Whatever you say, pippa. what immediately followed my "no i didn't imply anything of the sort." you quoted, was: "if you remember, my response which you quote above, was a reply to joek's comment about intelligent discussion on the science board which i'd assumed he meant intelligent conversation on science topics."here you go - see for yourself: I might be wrong, of course, and it's possible that using an alias gives one a sense of a 'fresh start', and the opportunity to address the issues at hand, what? science? jean has confessed she is out of her depth when it comes to discussion on science. " dragged in" did you say? you are funny, joek, simplex is not there for intelligent discussion because as i've said she admits to being out of her depth on the subject of science. go and have a look at simplex aka jean posting history on the science board and see if there is a single contribution about science. did you really? it did in fact highlight a dirty trick that alan played. do you really think that mercury drawing attention to the fact that alan's disgusting libellous slander was a lie is a "monumental piece of stirring"? speaks volumes. did you not notice alans subsequent needling has been nipped right in the bud. so mercury urging the moderator to keep an eye on things seem to be a good forewarning to the moderator on that board.
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Post by Joe K on Dec 28, 2010 3:31:19 GMT
From what I can recall, only one poster in particular has challenged Simplex. I think it was Abacus. My question, you'll notice was couched in future tense... ' Will anyone intervene as..?' "Will anyone intervene as Carnyx, Nay and Abacus (and StuartG?) 'pile on' to Simplex? " is what you said. " as" or "if", no matter. and i'm supposed to respond to this, am i? please, dont waste my time. That's not very generous of you. You've wasted plenty of your time here, do you now grudge anyone else the chance? This Mercury, or indeed Naymissus, could have reported Alan's post to the moderators,since unlike here, Nay hasn't done everything in his power to antagonise the mods on that board. The trouble with this message board is that you, Nay while he was here, and Marchesa too, have undermined the principle of reporting bad behaviour to the admin with constant criticism of that selfsame admin, and even other people can't use that option because you would condemn them for 'catpeeing'. Elsewhere on the 'net, boards aren't so disfunctional. A mod will act on a post, according to the rules, and whether he she was responding to a complaint or not simply won't come into it. Anyone who questions a mod's decision will be jonesing for a time out. People who love to carp will, of course, carp, but not for very long. The question is, Pippa, would you prefer a board where action is taken against people who subject other members to personal slurs, or not? Joe.
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Post by Joe K on Dec 28, 2010 4:04:13 GMT
Interestingly, I just took a look at the bottom of the science boards (I really should be hitting the pillow), and in a thread about members being banned, started by Jonjel, I think, Nay has written, 'he repeats foul smears and libels on this board that caused the collapse of the board where he originally made those libels. There he was shown to be a a vile speaker of untruths. I am appalled that this this odious small minded person that has contributed nothing to science discussions on this board should now seek to similarly drag this board into the gutter that is his normal habitat Could be, of course, that Seago is determined to kill off this board as he killed off the other by turning it into a swamp - it is noticeable that Seago has not even logged into that moribund board for 2 months now - there is no purpose in doing sosince I left it' I didn't realise that this board had collapsed. Perhaps that's the reason Marchesa only seems to post on the other board now, out of solidarity with Nay? You may be thinking of doing so as well, Pippa, unless you already are, as Mercury, of course. I also see, on page 2 of the thread, that Helen was banned for a month, allegedly for calling the mods 'T*wat's' and telling them to 'Fu*k Off' (don't know if she used asterisks, or that was 'Joanne Byers'). This was apparently after 'Helen was warned twice to stop persistent needling and that if she (and enquirer) did not mend their ways and board manners they would be banned.' Which is strange, because I was banned, not for a month, but permanently, as far as I know... yes, still can't log in... and not for such bad language, but for blowing the whistle on the antics of the mods, who had rigged the word filter to change 'lie/s' to 'insight/s', and similar juxtapositions. I received no warnings, either. Strange that 'Joanne' should be so inconsistent. Maybe someone should raise that subject, or maybe they'd prefer not to be banned as well? I am not 'barred from even viewing the board', though, as Helen apparently is, so again, it seems very strange that my 'ban' should be permanent... radio4scienceboards.proboards.com/index.cgi?
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Post by jean on Dec 28, 2010 10:12:56 GMT
...unless you already are, as Mercury, of course... We may suspect this, JoeK, but we do not know. We must never assert more than we know.
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