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Post by Ben Zene on Dec 30, 2010 10:43:11 GMT
Pippa Just seen your lovingly constructed list of my posts. How sweet.
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Post by pippa on Dec 30, 2010 10:48:24 GMT
Pippa Just seen your lovingly constructed list of my posts. How sweet. not at all. all saved, just need to tidy them up, now.
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Post by jean on Dec 30, 2010 10:48:30 GMT
i think you've kind of shot yourselves in the foot. Why, pippa? If you're right and Ben Zene is sinistral, her appearance here is not my doing. She is a free agent, a recent ex-member who knows where the board is. But why not just read what other posters say and respond to it, rather than imagine everything is part of some great conspiracy against you?
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Post by pippa on Dec 30, 2010 11:01:35 GMT
i think you've kind of shot yourselves in the foot. Why, pippa? If you're right and Ben Zene is sinistral, her appearance here is not my doing. She is a free agent, a recent ex-member who knows where the board is. But why not just read what other posters say and respond to it, rather than imagine everything is part of some great conspiracy against you? of course she is a free agent. but it rather goes to prove my point about ganging up which of course was the whole point of any of these threads. oh please, the mo is to flame not to engage in discussion. school playground, round and round and round we go.
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Post by Ben Zene on Dec 30, 2010 11:06:59 GMT
But why not just read what other posters say and respond to it, rather than imagine everything is part of some great conspiracy against you? But what fun is there in that, Jean? Far better to live in an invented world where you, and your chosen few, are victims.A world where you can decide on the identity of posters and then place them neatly in whatever clique is flavour of the month.
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Post by pippa on Dec 30, 2010 11:12:22 GMT
But why not just read what other posters say and respond to it, rather than imagine everything is part of some great conspiracy against you? But what fun is there in that, Jean? Far better to live in an invented world where you, and your chosen few, are victims.A world where you can decide on the identity of posters and then place them neatly in whatever clique is flavour of the month. if you post a rational discussion, fine, but i'll not be engaging with eye biting witches. bye bye sini, mind the commas don't trip you up.
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Post by Ben Zene on Dec 30, 2010 11:13:37 GMT
but it rather goes to prove my point about ganging up which of course was the whole point of any of these threads. Oh how frightfully, frightfully ghastly for you. Nasty people disagreeing with you. Shouldn't be allowed.
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Post by Ben Zene on Dec 30, 2010 11:15:23 GMT
Bye bye Pippa.
Keep an eye out for that CAPS key.
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Post by jean on Dec 30, 2010 11:16:43 GMT
of course she is a free agent. but it rather goes to prove my point about ganging up which of course was the whole point of any of these threads. school playground, round and round and round we go. Pippa, I think it is you who need to escape from the school playground. You've made a number of allegations against other posters. Why on earth should any of them not answer you, without being supposed to be part of some anti-pippa conspiracy? On the Posting Style thread, I made a positive suggestion. Just tell me where you have serious discussions - about politics, say - with other posters, without niggling or needling, without belittling people, all the things I do as a matter of course when I think I am disagreeing with people quite politely and constructively. I want to see how it's done, pippa. I want a model to follow. But you have ignored my post.
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Post by Ben Zene on Dec 30, 2010 11:21:46 GMT
Has she gone?
I was going to say Worralorrabollocks which should, by her reckoning, make me Joe/Nay(!)
Bastards
As the great man has been known to say.
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Post by Joe K on Dec 30, 2010 11:44:00 GMT
of course she is a free agent. but it rather goes to prove my point about ganging up which of course was the whole point of any of these threads. Pippa, you've posted over 500 times on this board, and it's hard to believe, on the face of it, that most of them weren't about your perceptions of people 'ganging up' (the Stephen Hawking thread is one notable exception). What do you get out of this board? Someone, Jade I think, tried to encourage some positive threads, but that trailed off. You only come here to be negative. Even the new thread on MCL you posted started with mention of a 'horrible squealer' getting their 'malicious way', followed by an attack (sorry, attack implies wrongdoing) on Jean, alluded to here, which lacked any substance. Question; do you think the police 'ganged up' on Raoul Moat? If someone joined this board, or any other, and proceeded to be a complete arsehole, and everyone said so, would that be 'ganging up'? The problem is not, it seems to me, that people like to conspire to attack certain posters, but that nobody trusts the mods to deal with disruption. I was reading the 'catpee' thread started by Marchesa last night, and there it was, the rather false logic that 'adults' should police themselves on the boards when realistically, that just leads to threads (like this one) going horribly off topic, with flimsy accusations flying fitfully. The technical beauty of the conspiracy theory is that whether people tell you you're right, or wrong, or just ignore you, it all bolsters the theory. The most annoying thing one can say on message boards is 'if you don't like it here, post somewhere else', but if there is a place you post where you don't get the aggro you seem to experience here, cherish it. Or, and this may be risky, ask the posters there to consider this thread, and whether you have grounds to be so judgemental. This is assuming, of course, that there is a board where you don't feel people are ganging up on you..?
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Post by pippa on Dec 30, 2010 23:41:17 GMT
bearing in mind the poster ben zene only registered on this board last night, these are the sole contributions made made to date. all this morning. it certainly seems to me our esteemed moderator, jean, has endorsed what is clearly a troll. no surprises there then.
#1 Yesterday at 10:20pm
#2 Today at 9:34am
#3 Today at 10:03am »
#4 Today at 10:08am »
#5 Today at 10:17am » [/color][/b]."[/quote]
(not surprisingly a misquote: it would seem a curtesy at least that if a middle chunk of words is left out of a quote then at least a series of full stops, thus..... indicate that it is not complete and therefore does not read how it was originally intended. this is my original quote: "since when was i answerable to you? your schoolmarmish nature is very off putting. you'd be wise to remember that i am not beholden to anyone least of all you, or any of your flunky's jeanhartrick."
#6 Today at 10:19am »
#7 Today at 10:41am »
#8 Today at 11:43am »
#9 Yesterday at 11:06pm »
#10 Yesterday at 11:13pm »
#11 Yesterday at 11:15pm »
#12 Yesterday at 11:21pm »
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Post by aquatic on Dec 31, 2010 0:39:57 GMT
bearing in mind the poster ben zene only registered on this board last night, these are the sole contributions made made to date. all this morning. it certainly seems to me our esteemed moderator, jean, has endorsed what is clearly a troll. no surprises there then. #1 Yesterday at 10:20pm #2 Today at 9:34am We may suspect this, JoeK, but we do not know. We must never assert more than we know. I think we could make an exception in this case though Jean. After all, Pippa's assertions regularly take on the mantle of fact regardless of how flimsy the evidence is.[/quote] #3 Today at 10:03am » I like a nice bit of speculation. I often speculate on the identity of the poster/s who tittle-tattles to Proboards. Are they also seasoned cat-peers on the BBC? Do the people who complain the most about deletions actually do the deleting to cover their tracks?
All most fascinating.[/quote] #4 Today at 10:08am » I think I may have broken the messageboard all-comers record for being placed in a gang. Two posts was it? Do tell, was it the crumbs that gave me away?[/quote] #5 Today at 10:17am » [color=0000FF ]No explanation needed. A quote from your good self should suffice.
"since when was i answerable to you? you'd be wise to remember that i am not beholden to anyone[/color][/b]."[/quote] (not surprisingly a misquote: it would seem a curtesy at least that if a middle chunk of words is left out of a quote then at least a series of full stops, thus..... indicate that it is not complete and therefore does not read how it was originally intended. this is my original quote: " since when was i answerable to you? your schoolmarmish nature is very off putting. you'd be wise to remember that i am not beholden to anyone least of all you, or any of your flunky's jeanhartrick." #6 Today at 10:19am » Come on now Jean, you know better than that. Pippa is always right. [/quote] #7 Today at 10:41am » hmmm...... whiff of sini there. couldn't resist, eh?[/quote] Rather a poor first effort there, I'm afraid. Never mind, plenty more options to speculate upon.
Here's a little wrinkle for you. if i start posting in a different manner (see what i'm doing?) perhaps that makes me someone else?
It must be that cheeky old satyr back. Probably been at the hydragyrum again! [/quote] #8 Today at 11:43am » #9 Yesterday at 11:06pm » But what fun is there in that, Jean? Far better to live in an invented world where you, and your chosen few, are victims. A world where you can decide on the identity of posters and then place them neatly in whatever clique is flavour of the month.[/quote] #10 Yesterday at 11:13pm » Oh how frightfully, frightfully ghastly for you. Nasty people disagreeing with you. Shouldn't be allowed.[/quote] #11 Yesterday at 11:15pm » #12 Yesterday at 11:21pm » [/quote] pippa, you're wasting your time, I suggest. Nor will people want to give time to following your OCD-type posting, I'm afraid. And your "our esteemed moderator, jean, has endorsed what is clearly a troll. no surprises there then" appears to me to be unfactual and (of course) unjustifiably judgmental.
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Post by pippa on Dec 31, 2010 1:09:09 GMT
it's a shame you cant recognise a troll for what it is, aqua. but i dare say others who are not biased, will.
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Post by aquatic on Dec 31, 2010 1:34:33 GMT
Well, it is a fact that nay/joe had been using language on MCL that could be deemed racist. It is a fact that the board has been pulled. More than that I have not asserted as fact. I do happen to believe that the racist language is part of a curious ploy to go so far that you could not possibly be thought to be serious, and therefore are not racist at all. Pippa thinks it's satire. Aqua probably has some convoluted ideas of his own. Probably I do. You're alluding to the fact that I said I wasn't prepared to call him a racist, quite yet. Actually, I've hardly read anything of MCL in the last week, and can't now in view of the shutdown, so I don't know whether I'd be prepared to call him one even yet, either. 'Homophobe', almost certainly, tho. Back to racism. Personally, even tho I've been an 'anti-racist' since the 60s, I think we're all naturally racist. But don't rest on your laurels! Think Global! Can it be right, or even in our best interests, to think Little Britain? What game Nay has been playing all these years with his seemingly racist remarks, I do not finally know. He riled a lot of people; he raised some laughs; maybe he made some of us think about our own situations. For instance, for a few decades, as white middle-class. I've fought against racism (amongst other things) from an abstract viewpoint. I still tend to do so - until something jolts me into remembering my middle son married a black African Muslim and converted to Islam himself! And they bluddy had the cheek to come for Christmas too!
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