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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 17, 2014 12:07:08 GMT
If I am the expert on demography it is because I make a point of seeking out the facts from the ONS and Census not talking out of my arse, like you. Five years ago six out of ten ethnic Pakistanis in Britain picked a spouse from Pakistan. Since this was a rising trend in 2009 it will probably be an even higher proportion today. This fact, along with a much higher fertility rate per woman, is what accounts for the increasing demographic impact of Islam's birth rate in the UK. Oh, and another fact for you. Most (95%) of Britain's muslims are the Sunni variety. www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z373wmn
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Post by jean on Jun 17, 2014 21:06:12 GMT
An ever greater proportion of them import their spouses. It's a scam to get round immigration control. It's probably because they want nice submissive wives instead of those bolshy girls who've grown up here. This is very regrettable I agree, but it isn't quite the same as a scam to get round immigration control.What it most resembles is those aged Englishmen who import brides from Thailand.
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Post by Rick Oshea on Jun 18, 2014 17:09:16 GMT
An ever greater proportion of them import their spouses. It's a scam to get round immigration control. It's probably because they want nice submissive wives instead of those bolshy girls who've grown up here. This is very regrettable I agree, but it isn't quite the same as a scam to get round immigration control.What it most resembles is those aged Englishmen who import brides from Thailand. I know a woman whose ex husband takes his holidays every year in Thailand and goes alone.The dirty bastard.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 19, 2014 10:36:52 GMT
Six out of ten Englishmen do not import wives from anywhere, jean. It's a matter of scale, dear. Clearer now?
Whatever the reason it is done, it evades immigration control and spreads UK citizenship amongst people who would not OTHERWISE be eligible for it. Husbands are also imported for Pakistani girls. It not just female spouses that are obtained this way. You would know this if you lived amongst them, jean.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 19, 2014 10:41:09 GMT
I always wondered why the UK's (mainly Pakistani) muslims were so up in arms against the invasion of Iraq toppling of Saddam Hussein. Seems the fact that they are also Sunni may have something to do with it.
If British sunnis are joining the jihad today in Iraq let them. It is not an excuse for the British State to join in too. If they are a threat to us deal with them on their return. The faux "threat to the UK" argument is just Blair's WMD in another guise.
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Post by Bunny Hopper on Jun 19, 2014 13:35:48 GMT
Six out of ten Englishmen do not import wives from anywhere, jean. It's a matter of scale, dear. Clearer now? Since you are such an expert on the importation of spouses, dear, would you be kind enough to tell us the breakdown by nationality(or religion if you prefer)of imported spouses.It'll be much clearer then.Dear Marchesa. Go on be a brick.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jun 19, 2014 14:37:36 GMT
If six out of ten your English neighbours were importing spouses from abroad YOU WOULD KNOW, bunny, you would not be having to ask me! The English birthrate would be rocketing, just like the Pakistani one, due to the boosting of the population structure by the addition of younger and therefore more fertile people for each marriage cohort. Don't you understand anything about the basics of demography?
P.S. Birthrate - number of births per thousand of the population in question. The greater the proportion of young people in a population or subgroup the higher the birthrate.
As for the other nationalities why don't you do a little research of your own. You must know by now that spoon feeding does not stimulate the little grey cells as much as finding out for yourself.
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Post by Snowed In on Jun 19, 2014 14:41:52 GMT
Six out of ten Englishmen do not import wives from anywhere, jean. It's a matter of scale, dear. Clearer now? If only six out of a hundred Englishmen imported wives that'd still be a higher amount.You ought to brush up on your maths'n'stats a bit before 'dearing' people.
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Post by FriendlyFire on Jun 19, 2014 14:44:49 GMT
If six out of ten your English neighbours were importing spouses from abroad YOU WOULD KNOW, bunny, you would not be having to ask me! The English birthrate would be rocketing, just like the Pakistani one, due to the boosting of the population structure by the addition of younger and therefore more fertile people for each marriage cohort. Don't you understand anything about the basics of demography? P.S. Birthrate - number of births per thousand of the population in question. I thought so. You have no idea what the figures are. You are making them up. You Cream Charlatan!
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Post by UNA on Jun 19, 2014 14:49:43 GMT
As for the other nationalities why don't you do a little research of your own. You must know by now that spoon feeding does not stimulate the little grey cells as much as finding out for yourself. I have just checked and it turns out that muslim spouse importation is a DROP IN THE OCEAN compared to all the other nationalities and religions.
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Post by Millie Meter on Jun 19, 2014 15:00:46 GMT
Shurely that should be charlottan!
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Post by millie Meter on Jun 19, 2014 15:45:02 GMT
To translate for you bozos "arranged marriages with UK citizens get a free ride re immigration control". You are saying that only applies to arranged marriages, so if two people fall in love and get married they don't get a free ride! That's ridiculous! Is there a petition I can sign?
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Post by Millie Meter on Jun 19, 2014 15:53:18 GMT
If i arrived at customs with my NEW Spouse* then we could just SAY it was an arranged marriage. How could they check?
*He's a surgeon from Spain. He's gorgeous. All right he's a waiter.
Hey FF I'd PM you but means joining and you know.
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Post by FondlyFondled on Jun 19, 2014 18:22:42 GMT
Nevermind all that. What this board needs is some men to tell us what needs "bombing the hell out of" to solve our problems.
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Post by jean on Jun 19, 2014 18:38:12 GMT
Six out of ten Englishmen do not import wives from anywhere, jean. But the remaining four out of ten do? I never knew that. But you seem to have missed the point of my comparison, which was that in neither case is this any sort of scam.
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